Comic Book Movies

Here are thoughts on what to do with various comic book properties.

Captain America: The first third of the movie is shot in a style that should remind you of Saving Private Ryan, right up to Bucky’s death and Cap frozen in an iceberg. The second two thirds are him getting used to our century and fighting the Red Skull who is in charge of a small army of men who are essentially two parts Blackwater and one part Hydra.

Wonder Woman: Again, the first third is about Wonder Woman’s mom fighting in WWII alongside Steven Rogers. She’s punching U-boats in a secret port in northern Africa because they are a thread to her island. We see her betrayed by men and get context concerning why she doesn’t want her daughter leaving the island. The second third is the birth of Wonder Woman from clay and her winning the contest in which she gains the post as Ambassador to the World of Men. And the second third is her fighting a rogue Amazon in the U.S.

Fantastic Four: Where did I read that the FF film should be set in the 60’s? Someone said that and it rings so very true. It should be a retro look with Cold War hysteria and Dr. Doom building weapons for the Russians but not if Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben have anything to say about it.

Its clobberin’ time.

The first movie should be Doom, the second should be Galactus and the third should be the birth of Franklin and the discovery of the Negative Zone.

Power Man and Iron Fist: Hell yeah it is set in the 70’s New York City with a funky-ass soundtrack. Hell, Luke Cage has always been Dolemite + Shaft + Superman. Iron Fist is the golden boy incarnation of Bruce Lee. They fight martial artists from another world come to challenge Danny and street gangs armed with alien tech from crap that other super-heroes didn’t finish up, so it trickled down into the street where it can hurt The People.

37 thoughts on “Comic Book Movies

  1. I’m right with you on the Captain America movie and pretty attached to the rest, too… but in some ways I have to wonder if the general public would like them as much as the fan base, but then I also remember I don’t care as much about the general public.

    I’d love to see a Green Lantern movie, but I have no idea how to go about it.

  2. I’m right with you on the Captain America movie and pretty attached to the rest, too… but in some ways I have to wonder if the general public would like them as much as the fan base, but then I also remember I don’t care as much about the general public.

    I’d love to see a Green Lantern movie, but I have no idea how to go about it.

  3. I’m right with you on the Captain America movie and pretty attached to the rest, too… but in some ways I have to wonder if the general public would like them as much as the fan base, but then I also remember I don’t care as much about the general public.

    I’d love to see a Green Lantern movie, but I have no idea how to go about it.

  4. Rather than in the compressed, two-and-a-half hour format, I’d love to see those ideas explored in something like a 13-episode season of 1-hour shows.

    But, hey, anything over what we tend to get today.

  5. Rather than in the compressed, two-and-a-half hour format, I’d love to see those ideas explored in something like a 13-episode season of 1-hour shows.

    But, hey, anything over what we tend to get today.

  6. Rather than in the compressed, two-and-a-half hour format, I’d love to see those ideas explored in something like a 13-episode season of 1-hour shows.

    But, hey, anything over what we tend to get today.

  7. My vision of the Captain America movie, as carried around in my head and described to people for at least the last five years, is identical to yours. So I think that pretty conclusively proves that we are both right and this is the perfect way to do it.

    I have reservations about the pacing of your Wonder Woman, though. I’d have the mother-in-WWII bit be a ten-minute opening segment – that’s all it needs to be. Then divide the remainder as you say.

    Nice, by the way.

    • I’d love to see this Wonder Woman with the 10-minute opening segment. But fighting the rogue Amazon at the end is weak. The villain needs to be Ares, who is working to bringing another World War to Man’s World.

      • Ding!

        Now it clicks!

        Part of the reason for it being an Amazon, when we first started talking about this, was that they’re the mightiest fucking warriors in the fucking world. Why would they *bother* fighting someone else?

        I had a “woman in a man’s world” thing in my head with the rogue, where she winds up supporting, instead of leading from the point of the phalanx. But this is so much better.

        Even Wonder Woman can’t defeat *Ares*, though. It has to be someone he supports. I mean, Athena’s not showing up in the flesh, either. Maybe Aiax? Herakles?

        I think he’s a “military contractor”.

        Shit, that means Wonder Woman packs *Aiax’s* head in salt. That’s fucking awesome.

      • Ding!

        Now it clicks!

        Part of the reason for it being an Amazon, when we first started talking about this, was that they’re the mightiest fucking warriors in the fucking world. Why would they *bother* fighting someone else?

        I had a “woman in a man’s world” thing in my head with the rogue, where she winds up supporting, instead of leading from the point of the phalanx. But this is so much better.

        Even Wonder Woman can’t defeat *Ares*, though. It has to be someone he supports. I mean, Athena’s not showing up in the flesh, either. Maybe Aiax? Herakles?

        I think he’s a “military contractor”.

        Shit, that means Wonder Woman packs *Aiax’s* head in salt. That’s fucking awesome.

      • Ding!

        Now it clicks!

        Part of the reason for it being an Amazon, when we first started talking about this, was that they’re the mightiest fucking warriors in the fucking world. Why would they *bother* fighting someone else?

        I had a “woman in a man’s world” thing in my head with the rogue, where she winds up supporting, instead of leading from the point of the phalanx. But this is so much better.

        Even Wonder Woman can’t defeat *Ares*, though. It has to be someone he supports. I mean, Athena’s not showing up in the flesh, either. Maybe Aiax? Herakles?

        I think he’s a “military contractor”.

        Shit, that means Wonder Woman packs *Aiax’s* head in salt. That’s fucking awesome.

    • I’d love to see this Wonder Woman with the 10-minute opening segment. But fighting the rogue Amazon at the end is weak. The villain needs to be Ares, who is working to bringing another World War to Man’s World.

    • I’d love to see this Wonder Woman with the 10-minute opening segment. But fighting the rogue Amazon at the end is weak. The villain needs to be Ares, who is working to bringing another World War to Man’s World.

  8. My vision of the Captain America movie, as carried around in my head and described to people for at least the last five years, is identical to yours. So I think that pretty conclusively proves that we are both right and this is the perfect way to do it.

    I have reservations about the pacing of your Wonder Woman, though. I’d have the mother-in-WWII bit be a ten-minute opening segment – that’s all it needs to be. Then divide the remainder as you say.

    Nice, by the way.

  9. My vision of the Captain America movie, as carried around in my head and described to people for at least the last five years, is identical to yours. So I think that pretty conclusively proves that we are both right and this is the perfect way to do it.

    I have reservations about the pacing of your Wonder Woman, though. I’d have the mother-in-WWII bit be a ten-minute opening segment – that’s all it needs to be. Then divide the remainder as you say.

    Nice, by the way.

  10. I don’t know. One of my biggest problems with recent superhero movies is that they insist on showing us the “origin story” of every single character. One of the things I liked most about the X-Men movies was that they started the story in the middle somewhere. Xavier and Magneto had a past friendship. Wolverine clearly had crazy adventures beforehand. In general, it made it feel like every character had a life outside the movie, and any one of them could have an interesting story on their own.

    With Fantastic Four, for example, I found myself looking forward to the sequel, since they’d already gotten the origin story out of the way and could therefore focus on being superheroes. (Of course, I haven’t seen either movie, since the reviews weren’t particularly inspiring…)

    So why should well-known superhero movies start with the origin story?

  11. I don’t know. One of my biggest problems with recent superhero movies is that they insist on showing us the “origin story” of every single character. One of the things I liked most about the X-Men movies was that they started the story in the middle somewhere. Xavier and Magneto had a past friendship. Wolverine clearly had crazy adventures beforehand. In general, it made it feel like every character had a life outside the movie, and any one of them could have an interesting story on their own.

    With Fantastic Four, for example, I found myself looking forward to the sequel, since they’d already gotten the origin story out of the way and could therefore focus on being superheroes. (Of course, I haven’t seen either movie, since the reviews weren’t particularly inspiring…)

    So why should well-known superhero movies start with the origin story?

  12. I don’t know. One of my biggest problems with recent superhero movies is that they insist on showing us the “origin story” of every single character. One of the things I liked most about the X-Men movies was that they started the story in the middle somewhere. Xavier and Magneto had a past friendship. Wolverine clearly had crazy adventures beforehand. In general, it made it feel like every character had a life outside the movie, and any one of them could have an interesting story on their own.

    With Fantastic Four, for example, I found myself looking forward to the sequel, since they’d already gotten the origin story out of the way and could therefore focus on being superheroes. (Of course, I haven’t seen either movie, since the reviews weren’t particularly inspiring…)

    So why should well-known superhero movies start with the origin story?

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